Tucson-Pima County Bicycle Advisory Committee

Final Minutes of the Wednesday, July 26, 2006 Special Meeting

Ward VI Council Office, 3202 E. 1st Street

Tucson, AZ

Submitted by Richard Corbett, Secretary

 

1: Call to Order

The meeting was called to order by Chair Diana Tolton at 6:04 pm

2: Introductions and Approval of Meeting Minutes

Members and guests present introduced themselves. New members Martha Lemen and Hank Rowe, both Pima County appointees, were introduced.

The minutes of the May Retreat meeting, on a motion by Steve Bresler, seconded by Brian Beck, were passed unanimously.

The June regular meeting minutes were found to be the wrong version, so will be acted on at the next meeting.

3: Law Enforcement Reports and Related Issues

Tucson Police Lt Mike Pryor reported there were 22 bicycle-motor vehicle crashes in the last month (June). 13 were injury crashes, but only one was incapacitating. Nine were property damage only.  The apparent fault (as seen by the investigating Officer) is still about 50-50 between dumb things bicycle riders do (such as running traffic signals and stop signs), and dumb thing motorists do (such as turning left in front of a rapidly approaching cyclist, pulling out in front of a rapidly approaching cyclist, or rushing past a cyclist, jamming their brakes on and cutting suddenly in front of the cyclist as they turn right.

Richard Corbett asked if minor versus major injuries could be tracked – Lt Pryor said yes, with some special arrangements. Jean Gorman asked if the reports could include the specific action taken by the police – Lt Pryor said he would check. John Fleming had several questions related to enforcement, which Pryor said he would get answers to.

4: Call to the Public

ADOT Staffer Nippy Feldhake asked to whom should badly faded bike lane stripes be reported? Both Melissa Antol and Matt Zoll responded with contact information  - it was determined the location is in the City.

5: BAC Discussion and Position vote on Motorized Bicycle legislation

Donna Aversa, Enforcement Sub-Committee member, asked for comments on the letter she had drafted regarding motorized bikes, to recommend banning them.

Brian Beck asked if the proposed ban would apply to electric bikes? Antol answered that while it was possible to include them in the ban, they are currently not nearly as fast, and will probably not be included. If electric bikes become a problem, they can be included later. Zach McDonald stated he did not support banning electrics.

Jean Gorman said PBAA has written a letter opposing the gas powered motorized bikes, and stating that safety concerns demand action. Dave Boston stated that U of A staff says they will ban all motorized bikes from campus. He asked if the local ordinance could require licensing? Antol responded that the law does not allow local licensing (Lt Pryor read the relevant section of the legislation).

Following some additional discussion, Aversa said she would make minor modifications, including changing bike lanes to bike ways, and specifically not including electric powered bikes in the ban.

Hank Rowe asked if a bike is modified to meet the equipment requirements of a moped, could it be legally operated?  Lt Pryor said yes. G.J. Anderson pointed out that mopeds must be licensed.

David Bachman-Williams asked if the pollution effects of the motorized bikes could be mentioned? Aversa indicated yes. Boston supported this as he has encountered them on trails, and their exhaust is noxious (almost all are two-cycle engines that burn oil with the gas).

On motion by Brian Beck, seconded by Zach McDonald, the Committee voted unanimously to authorize the Chair to execute the letter, as revised.

There was discussion as to when the letter would be taken to the City Council’s Transportation Subcommittee, since its Chair, Councilmember Shirley Scott is currently injured and limited in her involvement. Assistant City Manager Marie Nemerguth stated that due to the timeliness needed, the letter might go before the Neighborhoods, Public Safety, & Emergency Preparedness Subcommittee on August 17th.

Gorman mentioned she had found two motorized bike fatal cases on the Internet – yet another safety indicator.  Bachman-Williams moved to include the mention of the fatals in the letter, John Fleming seconded it, and it passed unanimously.

Should the letter go to all local jurisdictions?  Bachman-Williams moved to include all local jurisdictions, Hank Rowe seconded the motion, and it was passed unanimously.

6: Agenda Development and Procedures

Chair Tolton stated that she believes Sub-Committees should ’drive’ the agenda. Sub-Committee Chairs will be expected to submit reports to the Chair and the Executive Committee, as a key part of developing the agenda. Any member can, of course, ask for an item to be included on the agenda.

Bachman-Williams stated that he likes the proposed procedure – just be sure Sub-Committee Chairs know the expectations of them. He also mentioned that some Committee members, including him, sit on other Committees representing the BAC, and these representative will need to know which Sub-Committee they should report to (if any).

Chair Tolton stated that she want the reports to come to her (and the Executive Committee). McDonald said there should be a standing agenda item for each Sub-Committee.  Beck said it would be important to set a specific deadline for Sub-Committee reports.

Chair Tolton said that Sub-Committees would need to post their agendas to comply with the open meeting law (Antol said two days in advance). Aversa said since Sub-Committee members were volunteers, maybe the agenda did not need to be posted?

Aversa offered a motion to explore the question she raised regarding the posting of Sub-committee agendas, which was seconded by John Fleming, and passed unanimously. 

Hank Rowe asked if the Sub-Committees could meet immediately before the full BAC? Chair Tolton said that was her idea, to make it easier on members’ attendance. She polled the members present, and found that all except one could make a 5:00 pm meeting time.

8: RTA Bike Projects – Review from Retreat & PAG Process

PAG Staff member Richard Corbett explained the background and the basic process to date for BAC involvement in the prioritization of the RTA Bike Projects.

Chair Tolton said she had some concern about the lack of a numbered map, and that ranking the projects without a map keyed to the list was difficult.

Corbett responded that PAG would be able to provide such a map, on the PAG website. Antol suggested that it be placed the PAG Regional Data Center.

Gorman asked about projects happening now. Zoll responded that lists could be provided, but cautioned that they could have errors and/or omissions. Antol said the City could post a similar project list on their website.

9: BAC Members/Staff Reports & Announcements

Bachman-Williams asked if the Committee should meet in August?  Antol said the regular August date would be August 9th.  The consensus was that yes, a meeting would be needed, in order to approve the June Meeting minutes (which has the Sub-Committees establishment it them), hear Sub-Committee reports, and get an update on the motorized Bike issue.

Beck stated that the Education Sub-Committee would meet soon.

McDonald reported on the updated, improved BAC Website.

Bachman-Williams reported that the Downtown Links Committee has met and the new 4th Avenue underpass is on again. The design will probably be finalized in September.

Antol reported she has been promoted, an that TDOT will be hiring a full-time staff position to work with her, but that she will continue to be involved with BAC and the RTA Bike Projects.

Zoll reported that there is a new schedule for the Bike Ed Classes – and there are new incentives to induce participation. Safe Routes to School is moving ahead, with sidewalk improvements at Sewell Elementary School.

He went on to say that the IGA for the Ped-Bike Safety grant would go to the Mayor & Council in August, and there will be four new bus shelter signs. 

Ward VI Council Aide Roger Carrillo mentioned he was involved in work on a bicycle offender diversion program, and hopes to have a report in September.

Antol reported that she is implementing the wrong way riding sign program, with approximately 200 signs/stencils. Maintenance concerns about the stencils have been stated, so it will be a test to see how long they last. She invited members to give her their ideas on location and ways to evaluate the program.

10:  Potential Items for Future Agendas

·        Approve the June Meeting minutes (which has the Sub-Committees establishment in them);

·        Sub-Committee reports; and

·        An update on the motorized Bike issue.

 

11: Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 7:52 pm

 

~~~ ATTENDANCE ~~~

 


Members

G.J. Anderson, Pima County

Donna Aversa, Oro Valley

David Bachman-Williams, Pima County

Brian Beck, City Ward 2          (Parliamentarian)

Dave Boston, Ward 6

Steve Bresler, City Ward 1

John Fleming, City Ward 3

Jean Gorman, City Mayor’s Office

Martha Lemen, Pima County

Zach McDonald, City Ward 5

Eric Post, Pima County

Hank Rowe, Pima County

Diana Tolton, Pima County (Chair)

John Thaxton, Davis-Monthan AFB

 

Staff

Melissa Antol, TDOT

Roger Carrillo, Ward VI Council Aide

Richard Corbett, PAG (Secretary)
Nancy Ellis, Oro Valley

Nippy Feldhake, ADOT

Marie Nemerguth, City Managers Office

Lt Mike Pryor, Tucson Police

Matt Zoll, PCDOT

 

 

Members of the Public

None present